Interview, Philosophy, Society, Spirituality

Episode 48: The Cycle of Mind — Interview with Alan Gordon


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Alan Gordon is the creator of the Cycle of Mind “system” which looks at the subconscious mind as a gateway to change thoughts and behaviour. He explains in our interview how the subconscious, as opposed to the unconscious and conscious (which really have invisible boundaries), holds our most basic beliefs on what’s possible for us as human beings. It is mind-boggling that notions picked up at by the tender age of three years old still run our adult lives — and they are well below our conscious awareness, so we have to take extra care to be able to change them.

Human beings are now driven more by thoughts and the internal world than ever before to be able to navigate, and this is likely due to both evolution and culture. Since we are small, we are taught that we are “a person” with a specific set of unique characteristics, unlike anybody else. This creates a separation between self and other and creates the internal monologue — which is not wrong but natural, but the next stage is to go beyond this limited perspective.

The Buddha always mentioned that we can change our world by changing our minds. Alan has the same idea. He draws on ancient wisdom for the realisation that we are able to expand out of our limited ideas about our thoughts to create

“a palace… instead of a prison.”

Without further adieu, I present Alan Gordon and his Cycle of Mind in our episode above!

Interview, Psychedelics, Plant Medicines, Entheogens, Society, Spirituality

Episode 35: Psychedelic Integration — Interview with Greg Lawrence


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This is Greg Lawrence, a psychedelic integration specialist based in LA, California.

He works with his clients to prepare them and integrate them with plant medicines, experienced extensively with: Ayahuasca, San Pedro, Bufo/5-MeO-DMT, NN-DMT, Kambo, Iboga, Sananga and Psilocybin/magic mushrooms.

Listen to our conversation to hear about psychedelic care and a professional perspective on psychedelics and the mind.

Visit Greg at www.psychedelicintegrationspecialist.com

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A word about the mind…

The mind

is the most fascinating place to pay attention to — because it’s the only real reliable tool we have on experiencing “the world”. The fact is, the world “out there” is really the world “in here”. How do you know you exist, right here, right now and that all that you’ve been through, as a human being, up until this point, is genuine and reliable? Because you’ve experienced it, and you’re sure about it!

That’s why it’s positive to be healthily skeptical when others, whether that be friends or authority figures, tell you what they think is true. Why is this? Because most people never deeply explore their own minds or pay enough attention to what the mind is doing or is capable of and thus pick up all their information and beliefs/preferences/paths/notions of the world from others by copying, mimicking, and blindly trusting the status quo of the society that one is in. For example: our western society believes in material science at the moment, based on the progression of the people we admire from our recent past and the European Renaissance: Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Benjamin Franklin, Niels Bohr, and so on. They have made the “big list”, and so the information they present is the most accessible to our consciousness. Our societies contain hundreds of thousands of scientists, many of them unrecognised but still working away — so what makes these guys right and correct? Science is just another game to interpret reality, just like modern spirituality (and every other major category of pursuits, by the way) because it creates experts that rise and fall, giving information away to societies, when new discoveries are made. Life is constantly being updated. Why? Because of the inevitable human experience of the mind! So, if you experience that the sun comes up everyday and you see/know that — trust it. But there’s a point where you have to say “I don’t know” if there are other solar systems, or that the Milky Way is actually this-sort-of-shape, because “I don’t have access to a telescope” and “I certainly haven’t been there!”. Overall, your experience will let you know what is true, and over time, your mind’s projections, outsourcing, and all the second-hand-truth you accumulate from other people will become obvious to you.

Consider this:

All your ups and the downs….
And your good and bad moods…
And your beautiful material items, like flowers, incense, and food…
And opinions, values, and emotions…
Every idea and interpretation…
Each bodily movement and sensation…
Every dream at night…
Aspiration, goal, intuition…
Thought, emotion…
Unfortunate or fortunate event…
Spiritual connection with God…
And even the weather, other people, rooms, natural landscapes and nature…
Is all an aspects and projections of your mind! You created this. Literally. Every other mind in the world also helped create this. The entire world is just made up of mind(s). The world could not exist without you. Or me. Or Joe who helped build the Eiffel Tower. Or Nancy the nurse who helped save Joe at the hospital when he fell off the Eiffel Tower.

So, it’s up to you from here to decide whether or not there is any separation between anything or anybody and if the world is really “out there” or “in here”.

Even more, when you realise that the mind/consciousness is the greatest mystery of all time and that all the things you have assumed were “out there” (such as your friends, family, boss, animals, and even the roof over your head) are actually of your own creation, then you begin to appreciate and value the way you see and experience the world to a greater degree. Thus, a lack of separation between yourself, people, and objects begins to form and you can say, “yes, this is all me!” So, hatred, anger, and delusion can be overcome, eventually, because there are no other people and no external circumstances. They are all you.

There comes a time in human evolution, with maturity, that we can choose to take psychedelics and entheogenic plants to have a look at our own consciousness and its experiential power and capabilities. This can be for many reasons, some of which include:

Healing or getting unstuck
Seeing new perspectives in the material and non-material world
Self-discovery and playful fun
Career advancement for creativity/inspiration

Psychedelics can answer questions like:

What emotions have been covered up, due to trauma and past experiences?
What new shapes, colours, or ideas have been hiding from our baseline awareness?
What is spirituality and what is God?
What is consciousness itself?
Are there different dimensions, beings, and worlds than we are used to?

Working with a small group of trusted people or a guide is advised when taking psychedelics/plant medicines. Your judgment and discretion must always come first when engaging with such substances, because they alter awareness and consciousness and are ultimately life-changing and can have lasting effects for weeks to years in duration.

Om namah Shivaya, may all beings be happy, may all beings be free, and may all beings lose their relative selves and become one with consciousness. Om.

Buddhism, Interview, Society, Spirituality

Episode 28: Music & Buddhism — Interview with Bill Protzmann


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Welcome Bill Protzmann to the show!

Bill has a wealth of experience with Buddhism, spanning back 30 years; along his spiritual path, he has come to view making music and specifically playing the piano, as embodying Buddhism and being in the moment.

There is a Zen proverb that says that the best way to enlightenment is through laughter… because you’re thinking about nothing! The second best way to enlightenment is through music… because you can’t guess the next note or how you will feel when in the middle of a composition.

Music has a way of being right there with us, and this feeds into the performer even when he’s practicing. We do mess up, we do feel fear, and we do feel all the emotions connected with our audience and what we’ve written — our “private world” is shattered when we play with and for others. Music connects ourselves to ourselves and each other to each other.

Though he has done a plethora of interviews, our episode must be unique, as Bill lets his personality flower as we connect as two musicians on the Buddhist path and even touch on a bit of quantum physics, issues in the United States, entrepreneuriship, and tips on music and podcasting.

As a beginner of piano at the age of three, Bill has come to be now involved in music care, which is a therapeutic approach to using music as a tool to aid in mental and physical wellbeing.

He runs both www.practicalheartskills.com and www.billprotzmann.com where you can find out more about music care in San Diego, California.

Buddhism, Interview, Philosophy, Society, Spirituality

Episode 25: The Prospective Billionaire Who Walked Away – Interview with Danny Levin


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Danny Levin was a prospective billionaire who gave it all away to focus on connectivity in the human kingdom. When speaking with him, his humblnesss came across; when you listen to the episode, you can feel what sort of vibe Danny has. His interest is clearly not on himself but on a wider message for humanity and his role in the mosaic of life.

I wondered, “What leads a person, verging on being a billionaire and dining with the finest, to throwing it all away? And what is the solution he found after this noble step?”

He also doesn’t delve deeply into this topic, nor the fact he had been a monk for 10 years — but he does reveal what fascinates him most deeply as we open up and talk.

Clearly in the present, he found what has meaning in terms of appreciation and gratitude for the differing perspectives in the world: the farmer is just as important as the business man… they just have a different view. And we are inextricably interlinked and interdependent on each other.

Danny has authored the book, The Mosaic, where different characters in the puzzle intertwine to find their connectivity. Find The Mosaic and connect with Danny at www.themosaiconline.com!

As always, you can reach me at curiousbodhi@zoho.com.

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